Obliquitous wrote:Aliens.permafaust wrote:do you really think he has a number three tattooed on him and doesnt know why?Obliquitous wrote:Fun fact: People always say Johnny Depp looks like Jack but did you know Johnny has a number 3 tattooed on his hand and doesn't really know why?Coincidence? I say it's pretty dang weird.
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Curiously, it turns out there's another band that's now using the 'III' logo:
The 'III' theme is echoed throughout what appears to be their official website and twitter:
http://www.paramore.net/photo/paramore-logo-tattoo
http://www.paramore.net/about
https://twitter.com/Paramore_Fans_1
(And their lead singer has her hair dyed red, fwiw.) It sounds like they only recently started using the 'III' logo.
Maybe it's unlikely that a roman numeral could be trademarked; who knows. But it seems hard to believe that a rock band from Jack White's home town was unaware of the association of that symbol with his music and with Third Man Records.
(It was mentioned in another thread that they played at Grimey's on Record Store Day, along with Pujol.)
The 'III' theme is echoed throughout what appears to be their official website and twitter:
http://www.paramore.net/photo/paramore-logo-tattoo
http://www.paramore.net/about
https://twitter.com/Paramore_Fans_1
A 'coincidence' made even stranger by the fact that it's a punk rock band also from Franklin, Tennessee.The Franklin, TN band, comprised of Williams, guitarist Taylor York and bassist Jeremy Davis, as well as several touring members, was very clear on the happy dynamic they’ve embraced as a threesome. The stage backdrop on this U.S. underplay tour in support of the new disc features a video screen made of three pillars, like a Roman numeral III , an obvious but endearing symbol of who Paramore is now.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review ... iew-451047
(And their lead singer has her hair dyed red, fwiw.) It sounds like they only recently started using the 'III' logo.
Maybe it's unlikely that a roman numeral could be trademarked; who knows. But it seems hard to believe that a rock band from Jack White's home town was unaware of the association of that symbol with his music and with Third Man Records.
(It was mentioned in another thread that they played at Grimey's on Record Store Day, along with Pujol.)
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Yes because before this year they were a 5 piece band. Also They have been from nashville much longer than Jack....so maybe he is trying to be more like them?DeeBee wrote: It sounds like they only recently started using the 'III' logo.
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You know that's a contradiction, right?Stl_ben wrote:Yes because before this year they were a 5 piece band. Also They have been from nashville much longer than Jack....so maybe he is trying to be more like them?DeeBee wrote: It sounds like they only recently started using the 'III' logo.
Is it trying to be a joke?
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What is a contradiction and/or joke? Was just a couple facts and then a hypothesis (though the hypothesis is far fetched.)DeeBee wrote:You know that's a contradiction, right?Stl_ben wrote:Yes because before this year they were a 5 piece band. Also They have been from nashville much longer than Jack....so maybe he is trying to be more like them?DeeBee wrote: It sounds like they only recently started using the 'III' logo.
Is it trying to be a joke?
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Given that: (a) Jack White has been using the 'III' symbol for many years now, and (b) time-travel to the past is not possible; then the hypothesis that he might be copying them is not just 'far-fetched' but contradictory with the observation that Paramore only started using the symbol recently. I imagine you're aware of all that, though; which is why I assumed it was a joke. Sorry if my funny bone seems to be dormant at the moment.Stl_ben wrote: What is a contradiction and/or joke? Was just a couple facts and then a hypothesis (though the hypothesis is far fetched.)
I'm curious about trademarks in general; and I've wondered whether the 'III' was in any way proprietary. But I assume not. I'm guessing there's no trademark infringement involved; but perhaps a case of bad manners.
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Adidas have a trademark on three stripes on clothing if I recall correctly.
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Interesting; thanks for that information.Jamie wrote:Adidas have a trademark on three stripes on clothing if I recall correctly.
I'm pretty sure that their trademark would only apply to clothing, as you said.
Found some online sources:
http://www.brandchannel.com/features_pr ... ?pr_id=281
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_stripes
http://www.mondaq.com/x/228508/Trademar ... TRIPE+Mark
The wiki article has references at bottom, from various dates and court rulings.
Some of the links are broken now, but cached versions are at Wayback:
http://web.archive.org/web/200907050900 ... -youre-out
I can see how they should have a trademark over their Adidas logo itself, with their brand name and three unequal stripes at an angle. But having a trademark on three stripes anywhere on any clothing?? That seems excessively protective. Even worse, the European courts ruled against competitors who had TWO stripes on their clothing, just because it would remind people of Adidas. That's crazy; people have been putting stripes on clothing for centuries, long before Adidas came along.
But anyway: if three stripes can be trademarked as a clothing logo, then I imagine the symbol could also be trademarked as a musical or band logo. (Not saying that's a good or bad idea; just thinking that if it's possible for clothing, then it's probably possible for other kinds of products or companies.) I assume it's like the name game; in that you can trademark a name for one thing or use - "Mario's Pizza" - but then somebody else can come along and trademark the same name for a different product: "Mario's electronics."
The world of business and law seems far too complex and entangled; but then it can be important to protect intellectual property, so maybe it's a necessary evil. But if another band were to trademark the 'III' as their logo - even when Jack White & TMR have been using it that way for long before anyone else - then that would not seem fair at all. But who knows if that's even likely; most rock bands tend to change up their visual designs pretty frequently, so it might already be getting replaced by their next new thing.
OK, this is interesting. There was (is?) a record company called "Three Stripe Records":
http://www.discogs.com/label/Three%20Stripe%20Records
That page includes a discography of Three Stripe releases.Three Stripe Records / Profile:
Smith and Mighty owned label from Bristol, became an ffrr subsidary in the early 1990's.
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I prefer to consider them as similar rather than blatant copies.
http://www.davehause.bigcartel.com/prod ... e-included
http://www.davehause.bigcartel.com/prod ... e-included
“I’M GONNA KILL MY BROTHER JACK
I’M GONNA KILL MY BROTHER JACK
I’M GONNA STAB HIM RIGHT IN THE BACK
PUT HIM IN THIS HOLE
AND HE’LL NEVER COME BACK
‘MEMBER THAT?”
I’M GONNA KILL MY BROTHER JACK
I’M GONNA STAB HIM RIGHT IN THE BACK
PUT HIM IN THIS HOLE
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AlexFaderr wrote:I prefer to consider them as similar rather than blatant copies.
http://www.davehause.bigcartel.com/prod ... e-included
That's interesting too. It's very similar, yes. From the rulings on the Adidas trademark, it's likely that would be considered a trademark violation, IF Paramore or TMR or some other company had in fact legally trademarked their 'III' design. (Not saying that it should be a court case; just saying that it probably would be, if the Adidas history means anything.)
Also, there was a history of litigation over the Apple trademark, between Apple Computers and the Beatles:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Corp ... e_Computer
http://www.tuaw.com/2012/10/25/apple-no ... orps-logo/
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/16988500/ns/b ... rk-it-out/
From what I skimmed, it looks like that was settled in favor of the computer giant. That seems ridiculous to me, given that apples have been around for millions of years, and their art designs were quite different and distinct. Also, they were making very different kinds of products - until Apple Computers decided to get involved in selling music too. So it really does seem like a messy legal area. And I recall that during the GBMS tour, The White Stripes had a giant apple as their stage backdrop; and I think that also made it onto some of their associated album and poster art. So would Apple Computers be able to sue them for that? It just gets bizarre. I'm all in favor of protecting intellectual property; but I think it's kind of crazy that corporations can lay exclusive claim to common English words like 'Paragon' or 'Gateway' or 'Apple' - and artistic depictions of things that have existed as part of the natural world for thousands or millions of years.
(Insert corporate lawyer/dead skunk joke here.)
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PREACH DEE PREACH!but I think it's kind of crazy that corporations can lay exclusive claim to common English words like 'Paragon' or 'Gateway' or 'Apple' - and artistic depictions of things that have existed as part of the natural world for thousands or millions of years.
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I’M GONNA KILL MY BROTHER JACK
I’M GONNA STAB HIM RIGHT IN THE BACK
PUT HIM IN THIS HOLE
AND HE’LL NEVER COME BACK
‘MEMBER THAT?”
I’M GONNA KILL MY BROTHER JACK
I’M GONNA STAB HIM RIGHT IN THE BACK
PUT HIM IN THIS HOLE
AND HE’LL NEVER COME BACK
‘MEMBER THAT?”
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^ Huh?
Well, excuuuse me for offering an opinion on something related to the music industry. Or life, or anything. Sheesh.
(And here I thought we were having a reasonable and cordial discussion. I guess you just never can tell.)
Well, excuuuse me for offering an opinion on something related to the music industry. Or life, or anything. Sheesh.
(And here I thought we were having a reasonable and cordial discussion. I guess you just never can tell.)
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What? No!
That wasn't meant to offend, it was meant to support!
I consider preachers as those who profess their beliefs to those who share the same ideals you know, the traditional sense.
That wasn't meant to offend, it was meant to support!
I consider preachers as those who profess their beliefs to those who share the same ideals you know, the traditional sense.
“I’M GONNA KILL MY BROTHER JACK
I’M GONNA KILL MY BROTHER JACK
I’M GONNA STAB HIM RIGHT IN THE BACK
PUT HIM IN THIS HOLE
AND HE’LL NEVER COME BACK
‘MEMBER THAT?”
I’M GONNA KILL MY BROTHER JACK
I’M GONNA STAB HIM RIGHT IN THE BACK
PUT HIM IN THIS HOLE
AND HE’LL NEVER COME BACK
‘MEMBER THAT?”
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Oh, ok then. Never mind. Thanks for sharing your support for sane ideals.AlexFaderr wrote:What? No!
That wasn't meant to offend, it was meant to support!
I consider preachers as those who profess their beliefs to those who share the same ideals you know, the traditional sense.
But anyway, things that are made so needlessly tangled and messy and complex, when they should be simple - such as anything involving trademarks, business, law, etc. - just make my head spin and my skull ache. So I'll leave it up to others to carry that particular banner into battle. Definitely the whole corporate thing has gotten way out of proportion to the common good; but that would probably lead too far off topic, so I'll just leave it there.
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Speaking of Tesla, it looks like his Long Island lab/property is officially on it's way to being a museum.
According to the news it'll take at least five years and anywhere between 5 and 10 million dollars to fund.
I'm debating on taking a visit to explore tonight before anything is put into action.
According to the news it'll take at least five years and anywhere between 5 and 10 million dollars to fund.
I'm debating on taking a visit to explore tonight before anything is put into action.
“I’M GONNA KILL MY BROTHER JACK
I’M GONNA KILL MY BROTHER JACK
I’M GONNA STAB HIM RIGHT IN THE BACK
PUT HIM IN THIS HOLE
AND HE’LL NEVER COME BACK
‘MEMBER THAT?”
I’M GONNA KILL MY BROTHER JACK
I’M GONNA STAB HIM RIGHT IN THE BACK
PUT HIM IN THIS HOLE
AND HE’LL NEVER COME BACK
‘MEMBER THAT?”