Vault 15
- AJ123
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Re: Vault 15
You can't really blame them for the sound. The warped records aren't acceptable though
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Re: Vault 15
arewhyehen wrote:I am with you on the quality of these lately though. Some of the vaults have had some issues lately. Racs Live LP, WS Tote issues...I think this might be one of the worst issues so far though with the sound and the crazy amount of warped LPsmojoryan wrote:If everyone is in the same boat, I'll give another listen with a more resigned, and open mind. If such really is the case, then it' just may be the gem I'd hoped.jrfhoutx wrote:pretty sure the 'skipping' isn't actually the needle jumping grooves, but audio that simply does not exist on the original tape, for whatever reason, and is on every copy. Don't forget Jack has said that they used to repurpose tape that came from radio stations etc. and that this is where some of the odd sound bites in TWS songs came from, as did I would imagine, the March of Dimes bit at the beginning. If the tape is worn and breaks, then it has to be spliced and you will lose some recording time, and have those kind of 'skips'.mojoryan wrote:Man, I know this sounds nuts, but is the "skipping" actually sound disintegration that occurred in translation: does EVERYONE'S have the same issue? I wouldn't feel as bad if it's an across the board thing, but if it's yet another anomaly that I was "lucky" enough to get, I'll be irked. It would be, I think, three packages in a row that I've had issue with.
Aside from the fact that some of the songs are not entirely there (for whatever reason), I think it sounds great for what it is, basically an audience recording of a band playing in a bowling alley...
Again, this one I'm putting the sound off to being a recording issue, not a pressing issue (because it actually sounds like audience recordings I've made before, not a poorly pressed LP). As for the number of warped LPs, I reserve judgement until those with warped copies answer this: could you tell it was going to be warped before you even opened the shrink? or was it not apparent until you opened it and laid it on your turntable? (assuming it didn't arrive folded in half like that one KE split)
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Re: Vault 15
Both my packages looked mint when I got them. It's only when I put the record on the turntable that I notices the warping. As a LOT of people from various places have the same issue, I think a whole batch of them where maybe badly stored before they packed and shipped them.jrfhoutx wrote:arewhyehen wrote:I am with you on the quality of these lately though. Some of the vaults have had some issues lately. Racs Live LP, WS Tote issues...I think this might be one of the worst issues so far though with the sound and the crazy amount of warped LPsmojoryan wrote:If everyone is in the same boat, I'll give another listen with a more resigned, and open mind. If such really is the case, then it' just may be the gem I'd hoped.jrfhoutx wrote:pretty sure the 'skipping' isn't actually the needle jumping grooves, but audio that simply does not exist on the original tape, for whatever reason, and is on every copy. Don't forget Jack has said that they used to repurpose tape that came from radio stations etc. and that this is where some of the odd sound bites in TWS songs came from, as did I would imagine, the March of Dimes bit at the beginning. If the tape is worn and breaks, then it has to be spliced and you will lose some recording time, and have those kind of 'skips'.mojoryan wrote:Man, I know this sounds nuts, but is the "skipping" actually sound disintegration that occurred in translation: does EVERYONE'S have the same issue? I wouldn't feel as bad if it's an across the board thing, but if it's yet another anomaly that I was "lucky" enough to get, I'll be irked. It would be, I think, three packages in a row that I've had issue with.
Aside from the fact that some of the songs are not entirely there (for whatever reason), I think it sounds great for what it is, basically an audience recording of a band playing in a bowling alley...
Again, this one I'm putting the sound off to being a recording issue, not a pressing issue (because it actually sounds like audience recordings I've made before, not a poorly pressed LP). As for the number of warped LPs, I reserve judgement until those with warped copies answer this: could you tell it was going to be warped before you even opened the shrink? or was it not apparent until you opened it and laid it on your turntable? (assuming it didn't arrive folded in half like that one KE split)
And I'll give my opinion about the sound as soon as I would have a copy I can play
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Re: Vault 15
My copy looked warped the moment I opened the mailer. First I thought it's just the shrink warping the sleeve, but after opening it was obvious that the whole thing (including the 7") was warped.jrfhoutx wrote:Again, this one I'm putting the sound off to being a recording issue, not a pressing issue (because it actually sounds like audience recordings I've made before, not a poorly pressed LP). As for the number of warped LPs, I reserve judgement until those with warped copies answer this: could you tell it was going to be warped before you even opened the shrink? or was it not apparent until you opened it and laid it on your turntable? (assuming it didn't arrive folded in half like that one KE split)
Also the mailer they came in looked quite damaged, especially one corner, but fortunately that damage didn't affect the records. Great mailers.
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Re: Vault 15
although mine is definitely warped pretty bad, i did a good cleaning on a vpi 16.5 and it fixed the skipping issues. white vinyl is known as one of the worst compounds of vinyl so it's possible these just have extra dust on them. everyone should give them a good cleaning before playing anyway.
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Re: Vault 15
Have a feeling this may push back the next vault announcment
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Re: Vault 15
Yeah!
TMR has is giving hints about vault 16:
or am I understanding it wrong?
TMR has is giving hints about vault 16:
or am I understanding it wrong?
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Re: Vault 15
Mine arrived completely fine. The only problem is that the package is completely boring (I haven't watched the DVD yet). I understand the history, I appreciate the history but I would much rather listen to monumental LIVE recordings of Mr White, instead of a below par set from a youthful Jack White, and a 7" of "alternate" songs that are not very different.
This is probably my least favourite Vault package to date.
This is probably my least favourite Vault package to date.
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Re: Vault 15
i love the lp and the single might be one of my favorites so far. love the alt version of steady.destijl wrote:Mine arrived completely fine. The only problem is that the package is completely boring (I haven't watched the DVD yet). I understand the history, I appreciate the history but I would much rather listen to monumental LIVE recordings of Mr White, instead of a below par set from a youthful Jack White, and a 7" of "alternate" songs that are not very different.
This is probably my least favourite Vault package to date.
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- mojoryan
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Re: Vault 15
I'm definitely in agreement about the greatness of the single; I've already expressed my frustration over the lp; and I haven't had time to watch the dvd yet.dreamover wrote:i love the lp and the single might be one of my favorites so far. love the alt version of steady.destijl wrote:Mine arrived completely fine. The only problem is that the package is completely boring (I haven't watched the DVD yet). I understand the history, I appreciate the history but I would much rather listen to monumental LIVE recordings of Mr White, instead of a below par set from a youthful Jack White, and a 7" of "alternate" songs that are not very different.
This is probably my least favourite Vault package to date.
It's really not like me to not voice my opinion to TMR about vault/shipping issues etc, but I just can't bring myself to do it this time...it seems like every quarter SOMETHING is wrong with a package, and they're always so great about making it right...i think I'm just going to suck this one up.
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- JimmyLaverty
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Re: Vault 15
Anyone else think this version of steady as she goes is better than the album cut?? Man i love it!
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- Little Bird
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Re: Vault 15
Anyone hear back yet? The vault records seem very thin anyway. Would it be very expensive to have them 180g or something?
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Re: Vault 15
I totally agree, some of the differences are only subtle but it makes a huge changeJimmyLaverty wrote:Anyone else think this version of steady as she goes is better than the album cut?? Man i love it!
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Re: Vault 15
Hmm. My Vault package is waiting for me back in Nash, where I'm heading soon. What's the consensus—is the whole package worth listening to/keeping in my collection, or should I put it on the market for someone else to own?