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Beware, keep your soap cool or it'll ruin...

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:09 pm
by Little Cream Soda
So my soap hasn't been in direct sunlight or anything of the sort, but it's been hot over the past few weeks, just looked at my soaps to put them somewhere else (they were in a box in my living room) and they seem to have melted or the oil inside the soap has escaped, quite disappointing, any tips on fixing them or are they ruined for good? I planned on selling a couple since I need the money, but I would not be prepared to give these to anybody.

Re: Beware, keep your soap cool or it'll ruin...

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:29 pm
by trickster
Shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It will ruin everything and I will be away from home for another 5 weeks

Re: Beware, keep your soap cool or it'll ruin...

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:46 pm
by flattop2001
The melt point is over 50C can you post a picture?

Re: Beware, keep your soap cool or it'll ruin...

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:59 pm
by higherlimits
Good thing my condo is always pretty cool.. I have thought about that issue though..

Re: Beware, keep your soap cool or it'll ruin...

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:15 am
by Grimtale
I have a few in my basement stored away and it's nice and cool down there and humidity controlled. However the one I stuck in the mail this week to a fellow swirler might go through some heat in the mail truck.... lets pray it arrives ok.
Grim

Re: Beware, keep your soap cool or it'll ruin...

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:15 am
by dylnfan
Grimtale wrote:I have a few in my basement stored away and it's nice and cool down there and humidity controlled. However the one I stuck in the mail this week to a fellow swirler might go through some heat in the mail truck.... lets pray it arrives ok.
Grim
Amen brother! :lol:

Re: Beware, keep your soap cool or it'll ruin...

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 2:47 pm
by harvestgirl
mine have "melted" as well. not the entire bar, it's like it just leaked & the coating (?) came off.

same thing happened to 2 bars, stored in separate places, out of direct heat/light.

Re: Beware, keep your soap cool or it'll ruin...

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:49 pm
by orangeshoeskid
I bought 4 and 3 of them are still in the boxes but one is out and it did start to get a little melty and bead up with moisture but I just checked it and most of it seemed to go away. Mine are out of direct sunlight and in a relatively cool room since the a/c is always on.

Re: Beware, keep your soap cool or it'll ruin...

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:34 pm
by 7th_son
Uh oh Jimmy. Just looked at mine, it is pretty beady. The test press is A-OK though, what's the difference in the components?

I've heard of soap sweating, is it reversible?

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Re: Beware, keep your soap cool or it'll ruin...

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:50 pm
by flattop2001
That type of sweating looks fairly typical of either being in humid conditions, or heat with the wrap being airtight;

The former is the biggest problem, as moisture from the atmosphere displaces Glycerine from the soap and this will not evaporate as water would, it can be wiped off but the bar will be sticky, and given the intricate design will be tough. Sometimes removing it to a dry atmosphere will allow the Glycol to go back into the bar but unlikely.

If it is just heat and the wrap has not allowed moisture to pass then exposing to atmosphere should clear it right up.

As I posted a while back in the merch thread, the "shelf life" of these is only about a year (they were made last year); best way to store is in a cool dry place which is ventilated (fridge works well) and put a pin hole in the wrap.

But even in the best controlled conditions a bar will not survive much beyond 3 years, so if anybody has extras you are looking to sell I suggest you do it quickly, or you could always wash with it.....

7th_son wrote:Uh oh Jimmy. Just looked at mine, it is pretty beady. The test press is A-OK though, what's the difference in the components?

I've heard of soap sweating, is it reversible?

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Re: Beware, keep your soap cool or it'll ruin...

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:59 pm
by flattop2001
Adam;

The test bar used a synthetic pearl, which while creating a nice bar was not as good a match for the Racs color. The natural pearl used in the final bar is more dense and so may be changing the rate at which moisture can be released. :ugeek:

Re: Beware, keep your soap cool or it'll ruin...

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:05 pm
by 7th_son
flattop2001 wrote:That type of sweating looks fairly typical of either being in humid conditions, or heat with the wrap being airtight;

The former is the biggest problem, as moisture from the atmosphere displaces Glycerine from the soap and this will not evaporate as water would, it can be wiped off but the bar will be sticky, and given the intricate design will be tough. Sometimes removing it to a dry atmosphere will allow the Glycol to go back into the bar but unlikely.

If it is just heat and the wrap has not allowed moisture to pass then exposing to atmosphere should clear it right up.

As I posted a while back in the merch thread, the "shelf life" of these is only about a year (they were made last year); best way to store is in a cool dry place which is ventilated (fridge works well) and put a pin hole in the wrap.

But even in the best controlled conditions a bar will not survive much beyond 3 years, so if anybody has extras you are looking to sell I suggest you do it quickly, or you could always wash with it.....
It is definitely humid here. It does look more like an oily liquid, but it's hard to say. I have three that look identical, so I'm going to set up an experiment (n = 1 :P ) and see if changing the conditions will reverse it. Somehow I doubt it though. I am running low on Dove...

Re: Beware, keep your soap cool or it'll ruin...

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:42 pm
by higherlimits
I live in a pretty dry area so I don't think I'm going to have these problems.. I could crack mine open and look though...

Re: Beware, keep your soap cool or it'll ruin...

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:30 pm
by ochfish707
2 of my 3 were damaged :cry:

Re: Beware, keep your soap cool or it'll ruin...

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 2:48 pm
by elduderino
you guys are stressing out over soap...

somewhere, jack's chuckling.