Australian Elephant

D3STIJL · Post by **D3STIJL** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:39 am

Hello all,

A quick question on TWS Elephant album:

Does anyone have any information or know the difference between the gatefold Aussie Elephant pressing, and the non-gatefold Aussie pressing (besides the obvious)?

Just trying to gather information on the small collection I've managed to put together,

Dave

P.S. Any help or info. with this would be much appreciated.

love_islander · Post by **love_islander** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:41 am

It should be in a forum around here, but I thought the non-gatefold was just a red cover with the word ELEPHANT across the front, whereas the gatefold has the "standard" elephant cover with the pair in white

D3STIJL · Post by **D3STIJL** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:42 am

I actually have a non-gatefold from Australia with the pair in white...

Which obviously looks exactly like the gatefold version.

love_islander · Post by **love_islander** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:46 am

http://www.whiteswirl.com/forum/viewtop ... 6&start=10 - page 2 and 3 they discuss the differences between the 2, with photos.

Pardon to all for my blasphemy above

coldsoup · Post by **coldsoup** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:35 am

I'll probably get shot down for being entirely at the wrong end of the stick but from what I have gathered the gatefold was the original and correct issue. The single sleeves were manufactured by XL because they wanted to keep shipping costs down but they were never used. Someone dug them out of the XL vaults a few years ago and stuck the 2008 Elephant repress inside (with the extra B number matrix) and flogged them off. So technically it's not an official release.

I expect someone with more knowledge than I will fill you in on numbers. Or if I have my facts wrong.

Kaber · Post by **Kaber** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 11:06 am

coldsoup wrote:I'll probably get shot down for being entirely at the wrong end of the stick but from what I have gathered the gatefold was the original and correct issue. The single sleeves were manufactured by XL because they wanted to keep shipping costs down but they were never used. Someone dug them out of the XL vaults a few years ago and stuck the 2008 Elephant repress inside (with the extra B number matrix) and flogged them off. So technically it's not an official release.

I expect someone with more knowledge than I will fill you in on numbers. Or if I have my facts wrong.

Both are XL and from official sources afaik
If you go down the road of saying official releases
were all available from record stores / official outlets
then promos , and stuff like the Meg disc
would be 'unofficial'

coldsoup · Post by **coldsoup** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 11:42 am

Kaber wrote:
coldsoup wrote:I'll probably get shot down for being entirely at the wrong end of the stick but from what I have gathered the gatefold was the original and correct issue. The single sleeves were manufactured by XL because they wanted to keep shipping costs down but they were never used. Someone dug them out of the XL vaults a few years ago and stuck the 2008 Elephant repress inside (with the extra B number matrix) and flogged them off. So technically it's not an official release.

I expect someone with more knowledge than I will fill you in on numbers. Or if I have my facts wrong.
Both are XL and from official sources afaik
If you go down the road of saying official releases
were all available from record stores / official outlets
then promos , and stuff like the Meg disc
would be 'unofficial'

I wasn't implying unofficial meant 'bad', just that there was a difference in how these versions were created. I was just lead to believe that's how the single sleeve version came about, if it's true then I reckon that's not quite the same, and that's useful for someone trying to find out info. I read what I know on the Swirl. Sadly for me I have neither, although I want (need?) both. I'd be keen to hear from a single sleeve owner whether the disc has the additional B matrix number.

Also promos and things like the Meg disc I'd personally class as clearly official releases. But that's off topic and entirely based on opinion not fact and therefore probably irrelevant.

Post by **higherlimits** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 4:35 pm

I'd agree with most of what you said except for the shipping part. There's no way that a single sleeve is any cheaper to ship than a gatefold sleeve, doesn't reduce the dimensions of the packet and barely reduces the weight.. I really have no idea where the sleeves came from but the vinyl is definately from the later repress.

D3STIJL · Post by **D3STIJL** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 5:22 am

Hey guys,

Thanks for all of the info. One last question...

Do we know anything about the worth of either Aussie Elephant? Or, which is worth more?

By looking at all of the posts on this topic, I'd assume the non-gatefold is more rare. But then again, I'd be assuming.

I don't know for sure,

Dave

chrono_1980 · Post by **chrono_1980** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 3:29 am

The non gatefold is more rare Im pretty sure. I think theres 30-40 of them.

coldsoup · Post by **coldsoup** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 3:54 am

higherlimits wrote:I'd agree with most of what you said except for the shipping part. There's no way that a single sleeve is any cheaper to ship than a gatefold sleeve, doesn't reduce the dimensions of the packet and barely reduces the weight.. I really have no idea where the sleeves came from but the vinyl is definately from the later repress.

Very true. That bit doesn't make sense. My guess is they were just a sample run, there are only meant to be very few out there. Then some shifty fella stuck the represses in.

HIghVoltage3 · Post by **HIghVoltage3** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 10:16 pm

would anyone be interested in trading an Aussie gatefold for an Aussie single sleeve?

Stl_ben · Post by **Stl_ben** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 5:55 pm

Oxywhite wrote:
love_islander wrote:It should be in a forum around here, but I thought the non-gatefold was just a red cover with the word ELEPHANT across the front, whereas the gatefold has the "standard" elephant cover with the pair in white
Your reply is full with important information's. And also you have shared some. I know elephant are so big and their food habit is large. So, can you tell about their food habit?

Attack of the spambot.

love_islander · Post by **love_islander** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:02 pm

Stl_ben wrote:
Oxywhite wrote:
love_islander wrote:It should be in a forum around here, but I thought the non-gatefold was just a red cover with the word ELEPHANT across the front, whereas the gatefold has the "standard" elephant cover with the pair in white
Your reply is full with important information's. And also you have shared some. I know elephant are so big and their food habit is large. So, can you tell about their food habit?
Attack of the spambot.

Bitch better be careful of who he's quotin'. I'll be all up in his shit

achouza · Post by **achouza** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:45 pm

im going to say that both are worth the same,, even if the single sleeve is more rare i dont think its more or less valuable,,,

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