Australian Elephant
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Australian Elephant
Hello all,
A quick question on TWS Elephant album:
Does anyone have any information or know the difference between the gatefold Aussie Elephant pressing, and the non-gatefold Aussie pressing (besides the obvious)?
Just trying to gather information on the small collection I've managed to put together,
Dave
P.S. Any help or info. with this would be much appreciated.
A quick question on TWS Elephant album:
Does anyone have any information or know the difference between the gatefold Aussie Elephant pressing, and the non-gatefold Aussie pressing (besides the obvious)?
Just trying to gather information on the small collection I've managed to put together,
Dave
P.S. Any help or info. with this would be much appreciated.
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Re: Australian Elephant
It should be in a forum around here, but I thought the non-gatefold was just a red cover with the word ELEPHANT across the front, whereas the gatefold has the "standard" elephant cover with the pair in white
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Re: Australian Elephant
I actually have a non-gatefold from Australia with the pair in white...
Which obviously looks exactly like the gatefold version.
Which obviously looks exactly like the gatefold version.
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Re: Australian Elephant
http://www.whiteswirl.com/forum/viewtop ... 6&start=10 - page 2 and 3 they discuss the differences between the 2, with photos.
Pardon to all for my blasphemy above
Pardon to all for my blasphemy above
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Re: Australian Elephant
I'll probably get shot down for being entirely at the wrong end of the stick but from what I have gathered the gatefold was the original and correct issue. The single sleeves were manufactured by XL because they wanted to keep shipping costs down but they were never used. Someone dug them out of the XL vaults a few years ago and stuck the 2008 Elephant repress inside (with the extra B number matrix) and flogged them off. So technically it's not an official release.
I expect someone with more knowledge than I will fill you in on numbers. Or if I have my facts wrong.
I expect someone with more knowledge than I will fill you in on numbers. Or if I have my facts wrong.
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Re: Australian Elephant
Both are XL and from official sources afaikcoldsoup wrote:I'll probably get shot down for being entirely at the wrong end of the stick but from what I have gathered the gatefold was the original and correct issue. The single sleeves were manufactured by XL because they wanted to keep shipping costs down but they were never used. Someone dug them out of the XL vaults a few years ago and stuck the 2008 Elephant repress inside (with the extra B number matrix) and flogged them off. So technically it's not an official release.
I expect someone with more knowledge than I will fill you in on numbers. Or if I have my facts wrong.
If you go down the road of saying official releases
were all available from record stores / official outlets
then promos , and stuff like the Meg disc
would be 'unofficial'
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Re: Australian Elephant
I wasn't implying unofficial meant 'bad', just that there was a difference in how these versions were created. I was just lead to believe that's how the single sleeve version came about, if it's true then I reckon that's not quite the same, and that's useful for someone trying to find out info. I read what I know on the Swirl. Sadly for me I have neither, although I want (need?) both. I'd be keen to hear from a single sleeve owner whether the disc has the additional B matrix number.Kaber wrote:Both are XL and from official sources afaikcoldsoup wrote:I'll probably get shot down for being entirely at the wrong end of the stick but from what I have gathered the gatefold was the original and correct issue. The single sleeves were manufactured by XL because they wanted to keep shipping costs down but they were never used. Someone dug them out of the XL vaults a few years ago and stuck the 2008 Elephant repress inside (with the extra B number matrix) and flogged them off. So technically it's not an official release.
I expect someone with more knowledge than I will fill you in on numbers. Or if I have my facts wrong.
If you go down the road of saying official releases
were all available from record stores / official outlets
then promos , and stuff like the Meg disc
would be 'unofficial'
Also promos and things like the Meg disc I'd personally class as clearly official releases. But that's off topic and entirely based on opinion not fact and therefore probably irrelevant.
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Re: Australian Elephant
I'd agree with most of what you said except for the shipping part. There's no way that a single sleeve is any cheaper to ship than a gatefold sleeve, doesn't reduce the dimensions of the packet and barely reduces the weight.. I really have no idea where the sleeves came from but the vinyl is definately from the later repress.
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Re: Australian Elephant
Hey guys,
Thanks for all of the info. One last question...
Do we know anything about the worth of either Aussie Elephant? Or, which is worth more?
By looking at all of the posts on this topic, I'd assume the non-gatefold is more rare. But then again, I'd be assuming.
I don't know for sure,
Dave
Thanks for all of the info. One last question...
Do we know anything about the worth of either Aussie Elephant? Or, which is worth more?
By looking at all of the posts on this topic, I'd assume the non-gatefold is more rare. But then again, I'd be assuming.
I don't know for sure,
Dave
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Re: Australian Elephant
The non gatefold is more rare Im pretty sure. I think theres 30-40 of them.
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Re: Australian Elephant
Very true. That bit doesn't make sense. My guess is they were just a sample run, there are only meant to be very few out there. Then some shifty fella stuck the represses in.higherlimits wrote:I'd agree with most of what you said except for the shipping part. There's no way that a single sleeve is any cheaper to ship than a gatefold sleeve, doesn't reduce the dimensions of the packet and barely reduces the weight.. I really have no idea where the sleeves came from but the vinyl is definately from the later repress.
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Re: Australian Elephant
would anyone be interested in trading an Aussie gatefold for an Aussie single sleeve?
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Re: Australian Elephant
Attack of the spambot.Oxywhite wrote:Your reply is full with important information's. And also you have shared some. I know elephant are so big and their food habit is large. So, can you tell about their food habit?love_islander wrote:It should be in a forum around here, but I thought the non-gatefold was just a red cover with the word ELEPHANT across the front, whereas the gatefold has the "standard" elephant cover with the pair in white
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Re: Australian Elephant
Bitch better be careful of who he's quotin'. I'll be all up in his shitStl_ben wrote:Attack of the spambot.Oxywhite wrote:Your reply is full with important information's. And also you have shared some. I know elephant are so big and their food habit is large. So, can you tell about their food habit?love_islander wrote:It should be in a forum around here, but I thought the non-gatefold was just a red cover with the word ELEPHANT across the front, whereas the gatefold has the "standard" elephant cover with the pair in white
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Re: Australian Elephant
im going to say that both are worth the same,, even if the single sleeve is more rare i dont think its more or less valuable,,,
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